On Marian devotion

Reading the comments at Brothers Judd today, I found a statement and response that struck me as interesting:


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Jim:

The whole Mary thing is a stumbling point for both of us.

Posted by oj at November 28, 2004 11:34 AM

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It was for me, too.

Look, she's the ark, she's gotta be superclean, immaculate and ever-virgin; being superclean, she gets sucked right up to heaven by default; heaven is real and it's where she lives; you can talk at her all you want, it ain't worshipping her; she's our buddy in heaven, we can ask her to pray for us like we'd ask a buddy to pray for us.

Dude, big-brained guys like JP-II are just nuts about her; so if you let her be an obstacle, you're saying JP-II is sort of ... what, insipid? superstitious? The guy writes his PhD thesis in Latin and he's got it all wrong about Mary?

If you've gotten past the resurrection, and James' Catholic epistle (hated by MLuther), and the fact that the eucharist is the real deal and not just some friggin literary metaphor, then you're being a spiritual wussy by using Mary as your out.

Luther had a rendering of the Assumption engraved on his tombstone. In the end, he was just a Catholic wannabe, don't you die one!

Posted by JimGooding at November 28, 2004 03:45 PM

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